THE PURSUIT - with Patrick Kerwin
THE PURSUIT - with Patrick Kerwin

Episode 23 · 2 months ago

Why it's Time to Quit Your Day Job, Start a Side Hustle, and Live the Life that Calls to You.


In today's LIVE episode we discuss the growing trend in the marketplace of burnout, dissatisfaction in the workplace, and how building your side hustle might just be the key that opens a new door in your life.  

A HAGO gutters welcome back to theepisode of the pursuit. Some day sit down addition. We go live every week togive you the big ideas. You need to grow yourself, your business and yourimpact. Oh Man, we got a good one today, Hey I'm Patrick and Katie, you guys. We have some incrediblethings to go over with you today. If you're listening live good to, have youfor listening on our companion, podcast, also great to have you Katie, you and I went to a weddingrecently and we had some epiphanes will call them of piphat and we wanted toshare some ideas. We have with you guys. The challenge in the world right now ismaybe you've seen it. You've heard it. People are happy M and it's not justour experience and look people we talk to and the friends we have. It'sthere's all kinds of studies out there galloped at a big study about a yearago, and they just did another. They released it again with the same datalinked into these studies. Other people are doing these studies and it'sbasically coming out the math about the same. About seventy percent of peopleare burned out, dissatisfied and unhappy with their work in the careerpath, they've chosen or to say a different way. They feel stuck in theirlife right now and today we want to talk to you about believing yourself doubling down onthat thing that you feel called to do not just because you need it in theworld needs it, because we need to work on changing this thing. The stats Iwant I want to make I want to be. Seventy percent of people arecompletely overjoyed with the passion and love that they do. So, let's talkabout this a little bit, let's begin with, where this story started, with awedding that we went to, you want to catch everybody up well, first, it wasa most excellent. It was a beautiful wedding, it was beautiful, beautifuland we knew some of the people that were there not about you know maybelike half, and it was a pretty small wedding. So we did get the chance totalk to some new people and catch up with some old people who are oldfriends who we haven't seen in a while, just people who are older. Now I wouldsay it was actually like a mostly younger crowd with some old friends, and so we werelike yeah. What are you doing? You know? What do you do? What how do you spendyour time whatever, and then we did, we did kind of say, like people are kindof like I pretty much hate my job and I hate what I'm doing, I'm thinking ofchanging I'm trying to start this other thing and here's what I'm strugglingwith. So it's like really interesting just to see you. We talk to each othera lot and we know what we're doing, but it's kind of interesting to catch upwith people who we don't usually talk to and see how do they feel about theirjobs and just to Haddee more colors? It's not that, like everyone who talkedto he was like this down. Tra misery. Some people are, their problem, isthey've kind of fallen out of love with the thing they used to love like I dothis thing and I feel like it could make this impact, but there's this thing: that's justmaking it miserable making it way down for me- and maybe that's you me, that'sa friend of you or do that someone,...

...maybe it's your life partner, who'sexperiencing this right now, so, whether you're tuning in because thisis you and you want to get some solutions or you know someone whoyou're just hoping to get something to give him today is going to be a reallyreally good for you guys. So that's really where the story beginsright in this space of US absorbing all of this, and we sat down afterwards andwe just debriefed on it like did you hear what you you were talking allthese girls? It's on all these guys. Like did you have the sameconversations like? Oh, my God, we had the same conversations with all thesedifferent people and let's just begin here. This is a real problem and we need todo something about it. Obviously, we can't solve it for you, but today'sshow is focused on the conversation around it, so we do want to invite youinto that conversation. So live on the call. There's a chat feature go aheadon facebook linked in youtube wherever you watch this right now, even if youjust want to say hi in the chat that will come through so we'll see it ifthe technology is working correctly, and we want to be part of thisconversation that we're going to have today- maybe some insights you have so,let's begin with what is a little bit more what's goingon in somebody. So as people are telling us these stories, what were youto pivot? What were you noticing was going on where they hopeful that thingswere going to change? Were they? What was the state of mind of most folks?Well, you know. The interesting thing is that a lot of people that I talkedto were in careers that they had like originally really felt called to do andthey are like. You know. I really love the part of my job, where I can helppeople, but there's this other thing that is making me just want tocompletely quit or try to do something new, so that was kind of that was kindof the story that I heard over and over again some people were already thinkingof their side, bis or whatever. So that's kind of the basis of who I was.I was talking to yeah and I would say the same thing I was talking to peoplein the same line. Some people were very dissatisfied. Some people just felt tthat what they're doing is no longer working for them and you're right. I'mhearing a lot about in this age of the side. Hustle, maybe you do have a sidehustle, let us know in the Commons below, if you have a side householdlike, what's going out a love to promote you and hear more about whatyou guys are doing, but yeah the sil thing. Well, you know. I wanted tocomment that that we know what we were getting ready for the show. Today wewere set. You know trying to figure out, you know we gotta think about whatwe're can talk. Yet we don't exactly talk about everything, but we sort ofpush. So I here yeah, I was thinking about how a slightly older crowd is,who we were talking to slightly older, but we like thirty, five and older. Yes,yes, so we people who are our age, came into the job market at a reallyterrible time when the economy. So this is like no, I graduated law schoolaround two thousand and nine two thousand and ten. When the economy washorrible, you could barely get a job. People were making like no money and itwas just a kind of a crappy time to be coming out into the world and trying tostart a career, and so we were sort of... the point where it was like anything.I will do anything. Please give me a job. What do you need me to do? I will do it and then what we've sortof notice and Patrick used to work with a lot of you know younger people, and I try to say about my age, Kati,younger people. Okay, will even at that, and I also speak to some younger people hiring into the hiring into my officeand they are much more demanding about their work and the quality of theirlife at work and what's the company culture? What exactly am I going to bedoing if they're faced with something they're like I'm, not going to do thatand it's been very full okay, so I sing or bolding I kind of like it.I kind of like the people are getting it like hey. This is what I want youall Goin to offer that to me. No, then I'm going to vote with my feet and gosomewhere else right, so so for us, older people, we're kind of like okay,like I'm unhappy. What am I going to do now? So you know it's led Patrick and Isort of have like some different perspectives on this. I was thinking about how you know your mindset is so importantto getting just getting through your day to day. So, if you've known me forany amount of time, I've probably complained to you about being a lawyer.I've did that for a really long time. I'm sorry it's just not. You know. I regretted my career choice for a reallylong time, even though it's been very good to me in a lot of ways you know Ican I make good money and that's very nice yeah right, but in terms of likemy souls, I just don't feel like it's. My my great impact on the world is notcoming through the work I do as a lawyer, so I've had to really like rectify this. In my mind, and so what Ihave come to understand is that your mindset about the thing that you'redoing is the most important, because people can be in really crappysituations, but it is how you react and that's the thing that you have truecontrol over is how do I react to this thing? That's happening to me that can change your whole. Your wholeperspective on your day. Yes, there can be some truly shitty people in youroffice just drama, you know you are people are quittingyou're getting to have to do their work, and if I'm committed to my sufferinglike on the day to day committed to my suffering, Oh yeah, I, like that phrasecommitted to my suffering hm, like I'm, feeding the beast, yeah yeah. Okay, Ilike that and if all you do is you say this is what I don't like. I don't likeit. I have to go. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it, but if you can change yourperspective, Oh man, your daily experience is going to be so muchbetter yeah. I mean LE. Let's pause there for a second, because there'swe're hearing two different sides of the story from people. It's not likeall. I love this thing and now I fell on our love with it. Some people andokay. You can speak to this, have just...

...come into the awareness and it's at aplace where they can no longer ignore it that they feel like they've, taken awrong turn in life. Maybe they said L I just got into this career because myfamily was into it or I got into this path because it was just a low hangingfruit in front of me when I started- or I studied this thing, and I paid allthis money for the degree so hey. I guess I gotta go on on this road, sosome people feel kind of Coro and cornered into their life right now andthat feeling of stuck ness, I mean tell my friends: it's not a good feeling andat some point, hopelessness starts to kind of the cement and hopelessnessstarts to dry a little bit and you feel the weight of it weighing you down, andif that's you or you know someone like that. That is something that I think weall need to talk about, but more importantly, talk about. How did changethat because that's the main thing is it just hate? There's this humanexperience going, our people feel stuck and all these studies are saying: Heypeople aren't happy with what they're doing t a d in some ways we just wantto. You know to pull a rock phrase, muscle up Butter Cup on it. You know,like listen, just put your head down and get to work as you, you had a job,you need to have one and that's true and that's bow and, and it is, it isactually really valid. So I just wanted to say there are you know you will do whatever it takes tosupport your family. Do Whatever it day, you will do whatever it takes. If youknow you the worst job, I don't know, I guess it would be relative for anybody,but the worst thing that you could think of you would do it to supportyour family and that's what people do they work super long hours and theywill do whatever it takes for their family. So we totally respect that andrecognize that and we're not saying kill at all just go do something else,because that is truly like it's. It's may be impossible to make thattransition. Yes, so, but still I'm going to go back to what I just saidbefore. Is that the way you think about your situation is going to make themost impact on what you're doing? So, if you can more consciously go throughyour day, focus less on the future worries less on the idea that this ismy job for the rest of my forever. It's probably not. We can probably dosomething about it, but if you can just be okay with it and change your mindsetabout it, even if you are working the worst job ever and it's and there's allthe pressure, all the weight of the world is on your shoulders. You canstill change how you react to it. Let's see. Sometimes the only thing we canchange is how we experience something now you we want to go want to get intothe solution that we're here to offer you today so hang on we're going to notgoing to wait to the end we're going to get to in just a second, but can I just have it to you again fora second, you actually have we're speaking from experience here, you'respeaking from your heart. Can you let people know out there what you are justyour human experience around this topic is and why you, personally you're sopassionate around helping people get closer to their joy, especially intheir mindset, but also what they do every day and how one little changeyou've made has made a big change for... yeah. Well, you know I'm not goingto get into the specifics of the things I like and that I don't like aboutabout my job, but there are a lot of things that I don't, but I don't likeand what I have come to arrive at. Is that again, I m just like saying thething same thing over changing my mind, set has made theworld of difference, but one one thing in particular that I have done is tostart working on something else M, and I haven't tried to substitute my jobfor this thing that I have started to do. I have just started to do it, andso I have added something to my life and before you say, Oh my God, I can'tadd one other thing to my life. I don't have the time I mean I'm with you. Ifeel you. I have the full time job. I have the two kids, you know I havetheir needs and I have everything I feel like just like a typical superbusy person right and I did add something, but what it's done is itraised. My happiness level is overall, and it's made it easier for me to dealwith that crappy stuff- that I am not really so so super excited about in mylife, but it's made it like just easier to get through it and that's beenreally cool for me and I never would have expected that giving myselfsomething else to work on would be good, but it's you know helped something. I havenoticed that I a passionate about and I'm really interested in learning about,that's what I've added and that has actually made me better person overall,better at my job and my overall mental state. It's just way better. So there'sthere's two major things at want. You guys you kind of just gave them bothaway. So let's talk about the two of them. The first thing that that you cando if you're in that stuff place is one instead of changing the job andchanging those lousy people. You work with those annoyed instead of changingthem. Change yourself change. Your mindset, change your attitude, try tofind a new lens that you can look at it. Gratitude is really powerful forhelping you make those shifts writing down the good things that you have alsohelps you make that shift. So sometimes the answer isn't well. I'm going tohave to leave, and only when I leave will things change. Sometimes you canchange and then things will change for you. The second thing that you could doand I want to make sure that everyone hears me allowed and clear on this. Oneis and Katy said the word so so just wonderfully, instead of trying tosubstitute or swap out, Oh, what you guys are saying is: I need to quit myjob be jobless and then find this day things going to bring me joy right,that's truth! No Way, that's not good! I mean if you got a good savings andyou feel that that's your thing to do. You do you, but being the general vicesmaybe be instead of just bouncing from one place another without a plan, it'smore so adding something new to your... that you know brings you joy,whether it's starting a you do channel like we're doing or going for a dailywalk. Getting back into your art when reading whatever that thing is for youworking out more whatever a thing that brings you again that full a greatersense of fullness in your life of the things, you know, spark joy for you,it's just adding those those things more or back into your life, especiallyif you haven't had them in there for a while, but we're not really talkingabout a swap or you know, dropping one thing, but it is about that addition,but instead of just adding people can actually there's like a boat analogythat you- and I talk about. Do you remember the boat analogy of the don'tjust abandon the ship that you're on and you a like a top of your militie other Botanalogy there. So many BOT analogies, but here's how it goes in the way tothink about. It is okay, so you're on this boat right now that maybe is notthe most satisfying to you. Okay, let's live in that truth for a moment.Instead of saying I either need to like burn this boat or jump off this boatinto nothing. The idea is on the side, just kind of leads us into side hustleson the side. I must or building this brand new boat you know plank by plank.You know, Hammer and nails and just a going to build it slowly until it's bigenough rican jump off of this boat and jump on to this new thing, and thattakes patience that takes clarity of vision. That takes a lot of things thatyou need to get yourself to the place where you even know what you want tobuild, but starting there is really incredible, so we've kind of ironed out the themain parts of the solution, whether you're, adding something or buildingsomething. Let's talk about the benefits like what, if people make thisdecision now we talk about the early metric of the seventy percent that areunhappy. It's just about starting small. We don't, you know, think big but startsmall. How would you see this? Changing People's Daily lived experience and thewill benefits and how it helps them? Well, I think that you would stopsuffering suffering is a big. You know it's kind of like a big. Bold word butsuffering we like to use that word when it's like you know you have suchdiscontent and suffering with the state that you're in and you don't have to bethere. So if we can all move forward to having the more enriching things in ourlives, our suffering will just decrease and, like I said before, I think thatyou'll just become better at everything that you're doing h and I'll. Add thisto it. Not only is the benefit that you think about these things and makingmoves on this, but Katy. I want to be very clear on this message to you guys,as you start this week as you go forward into it and you're thinkingabout what might be our next bolt move. What might be that next thing for you, we're asking you to bet heavy onyourself to double down on your dream,...

...and maybe it's not going to happen inthe next thirty days. Maybe it's not going to happen next, three months but again plank by playing. You canbuild this thing and even right now, and I want to just kind of talk to thepeople who are in a place right now, where they're, like Patrick Aga, Ialready tried this. I already tried to leave the thing and Tart the new thing,and I just could not get it off the ground, I'm building my art and noone's buying it or it just wasn't moving the way I want to do that. Wewant to be clear. Of that is not the reason. That is not the evidence foryou to give up on your dream. It's a called a setback that happens on theworld of life that happens in the journey of entrepreneurship. You fallflat on your face. You got to pick yourself right back up. If you have afriend who can help pick, you up do that and get right back on there, andeven if you take a little bit of a side, you know those side quest on yourjourney. That does not mean that you can't find your way back to the mainroad where you know you belong or there's no problem with trying to buildyour your dream. Let's say it is: Let's say it's art, like you said: There's no shame in doing somethingelse. To make money to float you some people call that a bridge job, yesright, a bridge job can either give you a skill that you might be missing whileyou're trying to work on your goal- or you know, give you the cash that youneed, because this is America. You know we get to build our dreams, but we also have to make money. Yesright, this is Americaner, you got, you got a hustle for it, and sometimes you don't if you, if you feel that you'vetried to make something work and you didn't make it work that does likePatrick said. That doesn't mean the dream. Isn't still the right dream.Maybe you didn't have the tools s to make that dream come alive like maybeyou needed some? Maybe you have this idea, but you don't know anything aboutbusiness. That's totally! Okay, because I guess what there are people who knowabout business, I do have know about things about business, so, if you guysare in that place right now, where you want to get ready to do that- and maybeone of the reasons is that you just didn't double down on your dream ashard as you could er something in you holding you back whether you've gotsomething holding you back internally, whether you've got some externalchallenges that you haven't figured out how to overcome, and you just don'tknow what that thing is that you want to do. Listen we're here to help youwith that. We have a new course coming up called illuminate. I over the moon,excited to be sure this. You Guys Katy and I are working tirelessly on thisthing. We bringing it into the world, you can go on to a website and getearly burn access to it. This is really what we're here to do is help peoplefind their path and unblock themselves from the intern, things that are goingon do in order to pursue the life that you deserve. So that's our main messagefor you today in the overcoming of...

...these things, if you're feeling thesetensions you're not alone, that's the first thing. What to makes youunderstand. You are not alone. Seventy percent of their human race is with youright now, with going am I even doing what I'm supposed to be doing? Is thisright? Is there other happiness for me, and you can start, you can think big,but you can start small yeah any achievement of that, and- and I justwant to end by saying- like you truly deserve to keep going for it justbecause maybe it didn't work out or you may have failed a couple of times threefive I could be you've been working on this. Your whole life don't give it up.If this is your dream, you really deserve to go for it, because what else?Why else are you here? You know to to work on the things that you love. Itjust makes you a better person, a better person on the earth, a betterpart of your family, so don't get down on yourself. If you have triedsomething tried, something tried something and it hasn't worked. Youjust probably didn't have the right tools and and things change, but I'mjust going to give you a little hug over the camera. You can do it and yougin share o deserve t. that's all all right, all right guys!Well until we see again made a fire within lead, the happiest heights andthe roady travel be lined with lights, cheers all right, we'll see you guysnext time. Thank by.

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